diff --git a/QSB/Menus/MenuManager.cs b/QSB/Menus/MenuManager.cs
index 8b441ff9..10876c95 100644
--- a/QSB/Menus/MenuManager.cs
+++ b/QSB/Menus/MenuManager.cs
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 using Mirror;
 using QSB.Messaging;
 using QSB.Player;
+using QSB.Player.Messages;
 using QSB.Player.TransformSync;
 using QSB.SaveSync.Messages;
 using QSB.Utility;
@@ -301,6 +302,11 @@ namespace QSB.Menus
 		{
 			_intentionalDisconnect = true;
 
+			if (!QSBCore.IsHost)
+			{
+				new JoinLeaveSingularityMessage(false).Send();
+			}
+
 			QSBNetworkManager.singleton.StopHost();
 			SetButtonActive(DisconnectButton.gameObject, false);
 
@@ -373,7 +379,7 @@ namespace QSB.Menus
 			QSBNetworkManager.singleton.StartClient();
 		}
 
-		private void OnConnected()
+		private static void OnConnected()
 		{
 			if (QSBCore.IsHost || !QSBCore.IsInMultiplayer)
 			{
diff --git a/QSB/Player/JoinLeaveSingularity.cs b/QSB/Player/JoinLeaveSingularity.cs
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..cea1caa5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/QSB/Player/JoinLeaveSingularity.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,80 @@
+using QSB.Utility;
+using QSB.WorldSync;
+using System.Linq;
+using UnityEngine;
+
+namespace QSB.Player
+{
+	public static class JoinLeaveSingularity
+	{
+		public static void Create(PlayerInfo player, bool joining)
+		{
+			DebugLog.DebugWrite($"{player.TransformSync} join/leave singularity: (joining = {joining})");
+
+			var go = new GameObject(nameof(JoinLeaveSingularity));
+
+			var playerGo = player.Body;
+			playerGo.SetActive(false);
+			go.transform.parent = playerGo.transform.parent;
+			go.transform.localPosition = playerGo.transform.localPosition;
+			go.transform.localRotation = playerGo.transform.localRotation;
+			go.transform.localScale = playerGo.transform.localScale;
+
+			var fakePlayerGo = playerGo.InstantiateInactive();
+			fakePlayerGo.transform.parent = go.transform;
+			fakePlayerGo.transform.localPosition = Vector3.zero;
+			fakePlayerGo.transform.localRotation = Quaternion.identity;
+			fakePlayerGo.transform.localScale = Vector3.one;
+
+			foreach (var component in fakePlayerGo.GetComponents<Component>())
+			{
+				if (component is not (Transform or Renderer))
+				{
+					Object.Destroy(component);
+				}
+			}
+
+			fakePlayerGo.SetActive(true);
+
+			var referenceEffect = joining ?
+				QSBWorldSync.GetUnityObjects<ProbeLauncher>()
+					.Select(x => x._probeRetrievalEffect)
+					.First(x => x) :
+				QSBWorldSync.GetUnityObjects<SurveyorProbe>()
+					.Select(x => x._warpEffect)
+					.First(x => x);
+			var effectGo = referenceEffect.gameObject.InstantiateInactive();
+			effectGo.transform.parent = go.transform;
+			effectGo.transform.localPosition = Vector3.zero;
+			effectGo.transform.localRotation = Quaternion.identity;
+			effectGo.transform.localScale = Vector3.one;
+
+			var effect = effectGo.GetComponent<SingularityWarpEffect>();
+			effect._warpedObjectGeometry = fakePlayerGo;
+			effectGo.SetActive(true);
+
+			effect.OnWarpComplete += () =>
+			{
+				DebugLog.DebugWrite($"{player.TransformSync} warp complete");
+
+				Object.Destroy(go);
+
+				if (playerGo)
+				{
+					playerGo.SetActive(true);
+				}
+			};
+			const float length = 3;
+			if (joining)
+			{
+				DebugLog.DebugWrite($"{player.TransformSync} warp in (white hole)");
+				effect.WarpObjectIn(length);
+			}
+			else
+			{
+				DebugLog.DebugWrite($"{player.TransformSync} warp out (black hole)");
+				effect.WarpObjectOut(length);
+			}
+		}
+	}
+}
diff --git a/QSB/Player/Messages/JoinLeaveSingularityMessage.cs b/QSB/Player/Messages/JoinLeaveSingularityMessage.cs
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..79348c28
--- /dev/null
+++ b/QSB/Player/Messages/JoinLeaveSingularityMessage.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,18 @@
+using QSB.Messaging;
+
+namespace QSB.Player.Messages
+{
+	/// <summary>
+	/// sent by non-hosts only
+	/// </summary>
+	public class JoinLeaveSingularityMessage : QSBMessage<bool>
+	{
+		public JoinLeaveSingularityMessage(bool joining) => Value = joining;
+
+		public override void OnReceiveRemote()
+		{
+			var player = QSBPlayerManager.GetPlayer(From);
+			JoinLeaveSingularity.Create(player, Value);
+		}
+	}
+}
diff --git a/QSB/Player/TransformSync/PlayerTransformSync.cs b/QSB/Player/TransformSync/PlayerTransformSync.cs
index 7c0b01f1..94c5d3a8 100644
--- a/QSB/Player/TransformSync/PlayerTransformSync.cs
+++ b/QSB/Player/TransformSync/PlayerTransformSync.cs
@@ -46,7 +46,16 @@ namespace QSB.Player.TransformSync
 			DebugLog.DebugWrite($"Create Player : id<{Player.PlayerId}>", MessageType.Info);
 		}
 
-		public override void OnStartLocalPlayer() => LocalInstance = this;
+		public override void OnStartLocalPlayer()
+		{
+			LocalInstance = this;
+
+			if (!QSBCore.IsHost)
+			{
+				Delay.RunWhen(() => IsValid && ReferenceTransform,
+					() => new JoinLeaveSingularityMessage(true).Send());
+			}
+		}
 
 		public override void OnStopClient()
 		{
@@ -89,6 +98,10 @@ namespace QSB.Player.TransformSync
 		protected override void GetFromAttached()
 		{
 			base.GetFromAttached();
+			if (!ReferenceTransform)
+			{
+				return;
+			}
 
 			GetFromChild(_visibleStickPivot, _networkStickPivot);
 			GetFromChild(_visibleStickTip, _networkStickTip);
@@ -99,6 +112,10 @@ namespace QSB.Player.TransformSync
 		protected override void ApplyToAttached()
 		{
 			base.ApplyToAttached();
+			if (!ReferenceTransform)
+			{
+				return;
+			}
 
 			ApplyToChild(_visibleStickPivot, _networkStickPivot, ref _pivotPositionVelocity, ref _pivotRotationVelocity);
 			ApplyToChild(_visibleStickTip, _networkStickTip, ref _tipPositionVelocity, ref _tipRotationVelocity);
diff --git a/QSB/Utility/Extensions.cs b/QSB/Utility/Extensions.cs
index 6d092da9..0fb5c309 100644
--- a/QSB/Utility/Extensions.cs
+++ b/QSB/Utility/Extensions.cs
@@ -19,14 +19,16 @@ namespace QSB.Utility
 
 		public static GameObject InstantiateInactive(this GameObject original)
 		{
-			original.SetActive(false);
-			var copy = Object.Instantiate(original);
-			original.SetActive(true);
-			return copy;
-		}
+			if (original.activeSelf)
+			{
+				original.SetActive(false);
+				var copy = Object.Instantiate(original);
+				original.SetActive(true);
+				return copy;
+			}
 
-		public static Transform InstantiateInactive(this Transform original) =>
-			original.gameObject.InstantiateInactive().transform;
+			return Object.Instantiate(original);
+		}
 
 		#endregion