diff --git a/retroarch_logger.h b/retroarch_logger.h
index de23737f2d..505d7b4e7f 100644
--- a/retroarch_logger.h
+++ b/retroarch_logger.h
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
 #include <stdio.h>
 
 #if defined(HAVE_FILE_LOGGER) && defined(RARCH_INTERNAL)
-#define LOG_FILE (g_extern.log_file)
+#define LOG_FILE (rarch_main_log_file())
 #else
 #define LOG_FILE (stderr)
 #endif
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@
 #endif
 
 #if defined(RARCH_INTERNAL)
-#define RARCH_LOG_VERBOSE g_extern.verbosity
+#define RARCH_LOG_VERBOSE (rarch_main_verbosity())
 #else
 #define RARCH_LOG_VERBOSE (true)
 #endif
diff --git a/runloop.c b/runloop.c
index ed8aadf47a..8fd6cce1ed 100644
--- a/runloop.c
+++ b/runloop.c
@@ -1027,6 +1027,22 @@ static void rarch_main_global_deinit(void)
 #endif
 }
 
+bool rarch_main_verbosity(void)
+{
+   global_t *global = global_get_ptr();
+   if (!global)
+      return false;
+   return global->verbosity;
+}
+
+FILE *rarch_main_log_file(void)
+{
+   global_t *global = global_get_ptr();
+   if (!global)
+      return NULL;
+   return global->log_file;
+}
+
 static void rarch_main_global_init(void)
 {
 #if 0
diff --git a/runloop.h b/runloop.h
index 6b46d0107b..359a0613dd 100644
--- a/runloop.h
+++ b/runloop.h
@@ -476,6 +476,10 @@ void rarch_main_data_msg_queue_push(unsigned type,
 
 void rarch_main_clear_state(void);
 
+bool rarch_main_verbosity(void);
+
+FILE *rarch_main_log_file(void);
+
 bool rarch_main_is_idle(void);
 
 void rarch_main_data_clear_state(void);
diff --git a/tools/retroarch-joyconfig.c b/tools/retroarch-joyconfig.c
index 9616f2c313..fa5765e105 100644
--- a/tools/retroarch-joyconfig.c
+++ b/tools/retroarch-joyconfig.c
@@ -46,6 +46,11 @@ static char *g_auto_path = NULL;
 static char *g_driver = NULL;
 static unsigned g_meta_level = 0;
 
+bool rarch_main_verbosity(void)
+{
+   return true;
+}
+
 settings_t *config_get_ptr(void)
 {
    return &g_config;